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Title: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on August 20, 2011, 02:23:35 am
Hello.

I'm looping a 4 bar section in logic.  Spark goes out of sync with the clock after
it loops 2 or 3 times. whats up with that?

Also Spark doesn't always start on the "1" beat with the count in when I'm recording.

please help!
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: Kevin on August 22, 2011, 11:12:25 am
Hi IndigoCesar,
did you install the lates version of Spark?
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on August 23, 2011, 01:59:27 am
Hi Kevin,

Yes, I have installed the latest version.  Sometimes it starts in sync but most times not.

Thanx for reply.

Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: Kevin on August 24, 2011, 09:17:05 am
Are both "Host" and "Tempo" button on in the toolbar?
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on August 25, 2011, 03:33:50 am
Yes. Both are on.
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: Kevin on August 25, 2011, 09:02:34 am
So it is definitely a bug.
I will try to reproduce it.
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on August 26, 2011, 12:16:14 am
Great! Let me know if there is anyway I can help. Thanx!!!
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: Kevin on August 26, 2011, 09:12:15 am
So far, I can not reproduce it.
Can you give me more details about your setup (sample rate, buffer size, audio card ...)?
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on August 27, 2011, 08:18:59 pm
MacBook Pro Intel 2 ghz 4 gb ram.
Buffer no less then 512.
Motu 828 mk3 audio card.
Running at 48 K max.

Running very few tracks and plugins.

Ill check to see if it happens whith any
Particular plugins running.
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: Kevin on August 29, 2011, 08:41:41 am
Thanks for the details.
We have a 828 ere so I will try with it.
My last question, does this happens frequently, every time, sometimes or once?
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on August 29, 2011, 10:59:23 pm
Frequently; more often than not.
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on September 03, 2011, 01:47:36 am
Looks Like its happening when I have another track other than spark selected in logic,
which I need to do because thats exactly what I'm trying to do, recording another instrument while spark plays back drums. hope this helps.
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: Kevin on September 05, 2011, 01:19:45 pm
Ok. Thanks for the details, it should help me to reproduce it.
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: Kevin on September 06, 2011, 04:52:43 pm
Still not able to reproduce it  :(
Is it possible for you to PM me a Logic project with the associated Spark project and tell me what instrument you are using.
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on September 06, 2011, 08:18:50 pm
sure let me set that up.
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on September 23, 2011, 01:03:59 am
Hey Kevin.  I'm sure your very busy with the new release and all, but haven't heard back from you on this particular issue since the last email you sent on the 12th.  just wondering if you
have any news regarding the sync issue.  will this be something addressed in the next update?

Thanx!

Cesar G.
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: Kevin on September 23, 2011, 09:07:52 am
Hi Cesar,
we were able to reproduce it but didn't find any solution so far.
Sorry for the inconvenience but it wont be in the upcoming update (1.1.3).
But we will add this on the top of the list for the next one.

Kevin
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: IndigoCesar on September 26, 2011, 12:12:12 am
Thanx Kevin! At least its a known issue and you have plans to fix it.

All the new features are great, but unfortunately not very usefull until all the basics are running smoothly, at least for me because I don't use it in standalone mode. For the record, Spark is much more stable in standalone mode.

Also I should mention that when I double click on the Spark button in a Logic channel strip, it doesn't open the Spark Plugin window on the first try. Sometimes I have to double click it 2 or 3 times for the window to finally open.  None of my other plugins behave this way. Please let me know if you can reproduce this..

Thanx Again,

Cesar G.
www.universolbeats.com
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic & Ableton
Post by: MDCR on October 02, 2011, 06:03:51 am
I have this very same issue, when recording/rendering in song mode, spark seems to do something internally which is reflected visually by the load bar in the top left GUI animating such as when loading a kit.

Spark is rendered out of sync even with host and tempo initiated, further more, even when all midi clips are exported out of song mode to the spark plugin midi channel in the sequencer and song mode, host mode and tempo buttons are disabled, the render output of spark via the ableton sequencer is still out of time, or starting late.

Additionally when selecting song mode under 1.1.2 revision all patterns would graphically truncate to 48 steps even though 64 or some other selection range maybe selected.

This happens whenever in record mode in ableton but strangely enough not when simply playing back the sequence.

After moving the entire composition in the ableton timeline forward from 0.0.0.0 to a new location further ahead in time  it still did not align the spark song playback when recording and remained out of sync or delayed significantly.

a basic breakdown of the setup is:

Intel Mac book pro 2.2ghz, OS X 10.6.8, 8gb RAM,
Latest Ableton Live 8, Novation nocturn (Automap), onboard system audio.

Unfortunately this has reduced my lovely spark hardware controller to a paper weight for now  (due to lack of song mode features) and I ve had to use an alternative drum synth/generator to complete my projects until this is solved.

Greatly looking forward to receiving the update which corrects these issues, keep up the good work.

Merci
Title: Re: Out of sync in Logic
Post by: pkdick on March 18, 2012, 06:38:50 pm


Also I should mention that when I double click on the Spark button in a Logic channel strip, it doesn't open the Spark Plugin window on the first try. Sometimes I have to double click it 2 or 3 times for the window to finally open.  None of my other plugins behave this way. Please let me know if you can reproduce this..



Im also getting the above