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Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: PSB on February 06, 2005, 05:24:33 pm
Hello everyone! Is there anybody who could share some info regarding the application of different kinds of effects (reverb, chorus, flanger, etc.) within CS-80-V?

Can you apply a reverb to a preset within CS-80V and then save it as a new preset? How do you apply (and later modify) a reverb to your new sound that you have just created within the CS-80V environment?

Thanks for sharing,

PSB  [/b]
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on February 06, 2005, 06:03:48 pm
Well.

CS-80V has neither reverb nor flanger, you must apply the separate plug ins  to the synth's output you can't save it as a CS-80preset but you can save it in the setup you built on your Host....!
Title: Application of the Plug-ins
Post by: PSB on February 06, 2005, 06:22:08 pm
Hi Max,

Thanks for your response. Well then, how do you apply the plug-ins into the CS80V output? I am using SONAR 3 Producer. There are bunch of plug-ins (including reverb, flanger, etc) available. Now, we are talking about using CS80V as a DXi synth. That's easy. BUT what about if you use CS80V as a stand alone soft synth? Do you need to have a a hardware effects processor for applying special effcts like reverb, flanger, etc.?

Does it men that Vangelis' string sounds created with CS80 went through some external hardware effects processor to get that huge reverb?

What do you mean by saving the setup with the host application?

PSB
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on February 06, 2005, 07:37:33 pm
Well it's not a matter of how you set the CS-80V, it's a matter of how you chain effects on the virtual rack in your host or, if you use effects plug ins in s.alone mode as well, how do you set them  when using the synth: if they work in stand alone  too they can be set up and this can be saved as a preset on the effect presets' file:so open your synth, chain it to the effects , tweak them until you reach your favourite sound then save each setting, I mean, if you're using a host it can be easier ( although I don't know how Sonar works).

Now let's clear some things : when you talk about string pad Vangelis used do you mean the strings you can listen from "China" to "Short Stories" or the one you can hear in Bladerunner or Chariots of fire?

The first titles feature strings from CS-80 , you can notice them istantaneously, the strings have much vibrato and a particular, nasal flavour which comes from CS-80 ( I watched a video where V plays live the track "The Dragon" from China and he plays the Yamaha synth!)
In the latter titles the strings DON?T COME OUT FROM YAMAHA CS-80!!!! They rather come from a nice Roland thing: the VP330 Vocoder Plus, which has a famous string pad together with the best mellotronish Synth choir I've ever heard ( this also you can hear on the latter titles); the "stereo spread" effect comes from the onboard Chorus effect which was an unswitchable feature in the string pad preset: this effect is nailed again from an old Chorus effect, the Roland Dimension D which is a lot sought after for its quality...that's why I would love to see an emulation of the Vocoder plus in the next future :wink:

The reverb Vangelis used from 1980 is a Lexicon 224, Yamaha CS-80 never had rev effects on board :wink:
Title: Vangelis Strings and effects
Post by: PSB on February 06, 2005, 11:52:01 pm
Hi Max,

Thanks for your response. The first part now is clear. I have realized that there are no presets of effects within CS80V. I use SONAR and applying effects to the DXi synth (which CS80V can function as one) is no problem.

NOW! The Vangelis story. Thanks a lot for posting this information about his gear and how he is using it. Yes, I know that he used CS80-V for China (I saw the video as well) and Short Stories. You can hear this distinctive sound. I just wish that someone in this Forum could try to recreate a preset with such sound.  

I didn't know that he used Roland Vocoder for Bladerunner. Now, THAT is a fabulous sound, don't you think? But my absolute favorite sound of Vangelis' strings is from Antarctica. Nothing can beat that in my humble opinion. The sound is just supperb.

When I have got CS-80V I was truly amaized about the programming possibilities of this instrument. Even though I am not a programming guru I have made a promise to myself to learn about programming CS-80V as much as I can.  :wink:

I like to write my original compositions using those spacey strings. Vangelis and J.M Jarre are my biggest infulences. If you have time check out my web site at www.psbelectronicmusic.com  On the MUSIC page you can find my version of Blade Runner under "TRAVELS" CD. Let me know what you think.

OK, sorry for the lengthy post.
 :wink:
PSB
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on February 07, 2005, 10:30:03 am
:)

Vangelis used the Roland Vocoder for strings, choirs and....vocoding from "See you later" to "Sauvage et Beau" (unreleased) so even on Antarctica you can hear a Vocoder Plus making the strings part....the other side is how they were mixed, if you hear carefully there's a difference between Raphael Preston's "sound" and Raine Shine's...on the latter the strings and choirs are slightlier brilliant than on the previous, so this is only a matter of post production: on a disc you actually don't hear a sound: you hear a sound put into a mixer, passed thru effects, tweaked as the Producer's likes recorded on analog/digital tapemachines etc.
As I told in previous posts the Vocoder had a great onboard Chorus which drastically affected the timbre so there wasn't much need for processing it :wink:  (btw a very similar chorus lies in my Roland Super JX so I can make some serious "Vangelis" string pads!).You could then have two parts layered, layer two footage strings or strins and choirs or layering the vocoder too and then you were ready to sing "O SUPERMAN" 8)  8) !!!
The drawback in Roland Vocoder was it was a Paraphonic keyboard ( that is full polyphony but made with frequency division of few circuits ) so all the 49 keys did share the same envelope (one) and filters (three) and you couldn't make complex string parts because when pressing a key the sound shooted immediately and unnaturally out ( there the reverb helped Vangelis a lot 8) ), the keys weren't sensitive in all ways and , all in all the sound needed more processing than expected because it isn't this fatness ( as you notice in V records )....anyway a VP330 sound is a very simple thing to do with anyanalog synthesizer....what you will miss would be the Chorus.... :evil:


By the way, I simply love the Human voice sound from the Roland vocoder....no one has been so good to reproduce it.....it is a magic sound :cry:
Title: Vangelis gear cont.
Post by: PSB on February 09, 2005, 12:15:21 am
Hey Max, I am simply blown away with all that info that you have about Vangelis' gear. Very valuable information for those electronic fans that are after his sound. By the way, is this Roland vocoder still available for sale somewhere? I know that it is probably considered a vintage gear.

Anyway, going back to CS80-V; I have seen Vangelis playing the original CS-80 on a short video clip on the internet. Those string truly sounded briliant and "spacey". I bet he was feeding the signal from CS-80 into some hardware reverb unit since there is no reverb on board of CS-80. Do you think that the brass sounds of his were also programmed on CS-80? This CS-80V deffinitely has a capacity to create such sounds. Any idea where a "newbe" can get some help in terms of programming the brass sound on CS-80V? Some basic suggestion as far as from which type of wave should one start programming this sound (sine, triangle, square, etc.)? You know, that kind of sound from "Chariots" or "Blade Runner". With slow attack, swelling, and then slowly fading away. That is one awesome sound! I wonder if CS-80V can do that.... Hmmmm...

How old is your Roland Super JX? Is it still available for sale somewhere? Let me know.

Happy CS-80Ving!!!  :wink:

PSB
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on February 09, 2005, 11:19:10 am
Hi PSB

I'm fond of V music but not only , I enjoy Tangerine's "cosmic" years ( I mean Zeit and Atem ), some Schulze's and some progressive too ( actually I love the music that the Spheric Lounge posse from Germany actually produces...they're against copyrighting and so I can have it for free...really amazing!!)

Unfortunately the VP 330 was in production for only two years , round the same time CS-80 was in production (1978-80) so it is serious vintage gear with all the drawbacks of it ( high prices when you're able to find one, it's also rare :roll:  , unreliability, although Roland never failed in building solid things )....

About a CS-80 "vangelised" :wink:  yes, V used lots of reverb but this happened even in the early years....at the time when he had his first CS-80 on loan for producing "Spiral" ( he happened to buy another EIGHT of them ) he used the Masterrom Spring Reverb which was an enormous unit , a sort of a column which was able to reverb a sound for nearly 7 seconds !!!! This until 1980 when he enjoyed the Lexicon 224 (s.n. 0002!!!!) which has been his main effect until Nemo was dismantled!!! Vangelis used the onboard Chorus on CS-80 then the output was passed in the mixer and sent to the effects (these comprised a delay also which name I don't remember, sorry :wink: ). It was the reverb and delay combination which helped to spread the sound.
BTW: V used the effects subtly; it's clear he applied long time reverbs but he mixed the wet signal  not to wrap the dry one!
Again, V used presets A LOT !!! The "Hymne" lead was simply GUITAR 1 + BASS, the "Chariots" brass was only BRASS 1 + BRASS 3, with slightly aftertouch applied on one of the lines to better get a "sforzato" sound...nothing more :wink: !!! The main game is modulating the sound with aftertouch , by applying the right amount to Level , Brilliance and Sub Oscillator...it's easier than what you expect :wink:

BTW : Roland Super JX is not hard to find and has a really sweet sound in my tastes, you can get a tastier dish if you would find it together with its PG-800 programmer !!
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: PSB on February 13, 2005, 04:03:57 pm
Thanks Max for all this info. Pretty fascinating. When you talk about presets in CS-80V I am a little confused or maybe we have different versions of the CS-80V.

You wrote: V used presets A LOT !!! The "Hymne" lead was simply GUITAR 1 + BASS, the "Chariots" brass was only BRASS 1 + BRASS 3, with slightly aftertouch applied on one of the lines to better get a "sforzato" sound...nothing more  

I was trying to find those presets within my CS-80V and cannot find them. You are mentioning specific titles (Hymne, Chariots). When you talk about those presets are you refering to CS-80V or not?

I have got the picture regarding the use of reverb by V. That's what I thought he did. CS-80 out to mixer with the aux Effects inserts. Hmmmm.... Lexicon? No wonder , it's probably the best effects processor.

Can you share more info regarding the adjustment of the aftertouch in CS-80V?

You are very kind, Max, for sharing all this information regarding CS-80 and Vangelis. I am sure that many people will benefit from it if they will arrive at this info board.  :)

Good CS-80Ving!

PSB
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on February 13, 2005, 10:37:08 pm
Hi PSB

No way, the CS-80V is the same ! You have to watch the panel presets ( the coloured switches on the front panel )---> GUITAR1= the left green switch on the first row: BASS = first yellow button after two red buttons ; BRASS1= the only red button on first row, BRASS3= second red button on second row. For bass + guitar set the bass sound an octave lower. for brass1+3 tweak the aftertouch control until you reach your desired effect, it's mostly about how you "feel" the sound under your fingers!
PS: the sounds I mentioned you about are used in many many recordings not only in those I told you about in the  previous posts!
Happy playing

 :wink:
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: Z on February 18, 2005, 09:18:04 am
Wow, this is truly amazing, Max, how come you know so much about Vangelis' use of the instruments and effects?

Maybe I can ask you a question about this, do you know how the lead sound on 'To The Unkown Man' was created? I am pretty sure it's the CS-80 since it sounds to me as what cannot be anything other than a heavy ribbon controller use at the last half of the song, but the patch he uses sounds to me as there are two layered patches?
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on February 18, 2005, 09:50:03 am
:oops:

Hi Z

This is a simple and PRESET sound : GUITAR 1 + BASS ( as on Hymne ), remember these are PANEL presets ,not-file-managed : be careful for the MIX between I and II , on TTUM you have a (very) slightly louder BASS sound . On the bridge you can play the Glissandos with GUITAR 1 only and so with the final part where you also can adjust some RES-L  and lower Attack Time.

PS: Check my proposal to Arturians for building a software Direct Machine by reading my post and attached files (written by Direct's designer himself)....it's on Free Speech corner! :wink:
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: PSB on February 18, 2005, 03:23:20 pm
Hey Max!

Many thanks for all the info about Vangelis' use of CS-80. Gee, you know so much about it. VERY imrpessive.

Where is that Free Speech corner? How can I find it? I would REALLY like to read this proposal.

Let me know,

PSB   :wink:
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: PSB on February 18, 2005, 03:32:11 pm
OK, I have found it! Thanks for letting us know about it.

I'll read it and then will get back with you about it.

Thanx, Max
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: Z on February 25, 2005, 01:17:35 pm
Quote from: "omissis"
This is a simple and PRESET sound : GUITAR 1 + BASS ( as on Hymne ), remember these are PANEL presets ,not-file-managed : be careful for the MIX between I and II , on TTUM you have a (very) slightly louder BASS sound . On the bridge you can play the Glissandos with GUITAR 1 only and so with the final part where you also can adjust some RES-L  and lower Attack Time.


Okay, I think I'm doing something wrong; if I select these two patches, they do not sound anything like the lead on TTUM (yes, the panel presets, not file managed). It's not anything with the mix between them, they simply just don't sound like the one he used.

Are you sure he used this patch combination, or is it heavily tweaked or did he use so much fx on it it's barely recognizable when compared to a 'clean' CS-80V with only a little chorus and reverb added?
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on February 25, 2005, 08:25:14 pm
Hi Z

The sounds are really Guitar 1 + Bass! BUt , as you said, there's something more: the sound is added with some little more resonance ( on the original you COULDN'T modify the presets with the synth controls, you only could act through the performance controls ) so try to add a little more resonance with the overall Res lever.Also it's much about HOW you play these sounds: you will notice that there's a slow pitch mod made by the sub-osc which is underlined with aftertouch action and the brilliance is controlled by velocity....think also that Vangelis is a very skilled performer so he knew how to give feeling to each played note; with the help of his reverbs and delays of course :wink:
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: poropat on March 22, 2005, 08:35:26 pm
Quote from: "omissis"
Hi Z

The sounds are really Guitar 1 + Bass! BUt , as you said, there's something more: the sound is added with some little more resonance ( on the original you COULDN'T modify the presets with the synth controls, you only could act through the performance controls ) so try to add a little more resonance with the overall Res lever.Also it's much about HOW you play these sounds: you will notice that there's a slow pitch mod made by the sub-osc which is underlined with aftertouch action and the brilliance is controlled by velocity....think also that Vangelis is a very skilled performer so he knew how to give feeling to each played note; with the help of his reverbs and delays of course :wink:


of course Vangelis is a champion, and a CS80 specialist,
by the way I don't know why Arturia didn't ask some sounds
from him, imagine, a Vangelis bank on CS80V, I would stay at home
even if weather is sunny.   :D
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on March 22, 2005, 09:47:19 pm
Quote
of course Vangelis is a champion, and a CS80 specialist,
by the way I don't know why Arturia didn't ask some sounds
from him, imagine, a Vangelis bank on CS80V, I would stay at home
even if weather is sunny



Well again, it's not a matter of "sounds" :  Vangelis didn't ever had a large sound palette with his CS-80s(nine) , he made very few "recognizable" sounds and the main fact within this is they were presets quite often ! But what make the Vangelis sounds shine is how they were used, and there the man was a real champion beacuse he knew exactly how to manage each single expressive nuance on the performance capabilities and stunning user interface of the real instrument...if you want to do that you may wish to have a control surface with a set of  24  sliders and switches just for each of the synthesis lines plus additional 24 controls for the Performance without a single notice of digital steping ( you would probably use these the most ), a polyaftertouch keyboard, two pedals ( for Vangelis these were absoultely needed ) and a ribbon controller , do  lots of practice and lastly have a good technique and a BIG, BIG memory :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
The  original CS-80 wasn't the greatest synthesizer in the world about making different sounds ( I think that CS-80V has much more balls about it ), its greatness was about the expressive capabilities and the ability to change drastically the properties of a sound with very few passages , and with a great ease! Unfortunately a virtual is a virtual and if you need to control you have to physically put your hands on something!
After all and IMO I will put myself in creating my sounds , getting as much confident with them as I can to get the best from them![/b]
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: poropat on March 23, 2005, 02:38:20 am
About hardware, the most difficult challenge seems to find
a poly aftertouch keyboard, I'm dreaming a prophet T8 but
need to find one..., then needs to pay...
I don't know if the new polyevolver from Dave smith
includes polyaftertouch....
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: PSB on March 23, 2005, 03:10:43 am
Yeah, what is that polyaftertouch keyboard??? I have never heard of such thing. Is this the same as regular key sensitive keyboard with the aftertouch capacity? Does "polyaftertouch" means that you can have the aftertouch assigned to each key?   :?

I usually use my Alesis QS8 as a main MIDI controller. It has 88 regular piano keys with aftertouch. This thing feels like a regular keyboard of a grand piano. That's why I have bought it.

So, if there is a special "polyaftertouch" keyboard please let me know.  I might be interested to get one (if someone still makes it).   :wink:

PSB
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: poropat on March 23, 2005, 06:50:46 am
Quote from: "PSB"
Yeah, what is that polyaftertouch keyboard??? I have never heard of such thing. Is this the same as regular key sensitive keyboard with the aftertouch capacity? Does "polyaftertouch" means that you can have the aftertouch assigned to each key?   :?

I usually use my Alesis QS8 as a main MIDI controller. It has 88 regular piano keys with aftertouch. This thing feels like a regular keyboard of a grand piano. That's why I have bought it.

So, if there is a special "polyaftertouch" keyboard please let me know.  I might be interested to get one (if someone still makes it).   :wink:

PSB


Yes, polyaftertouch sends the aftertouch message for each key pressed.
It's much more expressive.
The QS8 seems have only the chanel aftertouch, which sends only
a global aftertouch value when some keys are pressed.
So the CS80 has polyaftertouch, and very few synths or controlers have
this function, and to use fully the CS80V this function is needed.

What I'm sure, the Prophet T8 is a good one for this, and with
sequential legendary sound at the same time, but of course
rare and expensive.
roland A50 and A80 do this too, the GEM S series have this too.
Ensoniq VFX too, but seems now we can't find any modern keyboards
which have this function.
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on March 23, 2005, 11:09:57 am
A Prophet T-8 seems a good choice but mind its keyboard concept is quite delicate and complex ( it worked velocity by photoelectric cells!!! ) and at the day not many people seem  able to put their hands on it when a damage occurs ( and, of course there's lack of spare parts ) . I think that an Ensoniq ( from VFX to TS-10 ) , a Kurzweil Midiboard or a Generalmusic S-series keyboard may be some more suitable choices....not counting you can always add polyaftertouch messages from your DAW....at zero costs :wink:; actually no builder , neither big nor small seems to be oriented in building a PA keyboard, because it has big production costs and not many can be sold....simply because without this feature a very few people got into the technique of managing a polyaftertouch way of expression! :cry:  :cry: ; oh well, here in Italy something seems to move on....there are rumors that Mario Maggi, the maker of Elka Synthex has developed a new analog device which may feature a polyaftertouch keyboard...in the while a new expressive ribbon controller with zero relative center has been developed at SKNote and is about to be introduced in the upcoming Musikmesse .

Another thing is to tweak the Performance controls....I hate to think that you can control some smooth passages , eg in the ringmodulator with a MIDI slider that sends only 128 steps....I just want MIDI to be buried and forgotten :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: poropat on March 23, 2005, 11:47:34 am
Quote from: "omissis"
....there are rumors that Mario Maggi, the maker of Elka Synthex has developed a new analog device which may feature a polyaftertouch keyboard...in the while a new expressive ribbon controller with zero relative center has been developed at SKNote and is about to be introduced in the upcoming Musikmesse .


So good news from Italy?

A ribbon controler with zero relative center?
A polyaftertouch analog keyboard designed by Mario Maggi?

I'm his fan, I'm a synthex user, and for me Mario Maggi it's like
Bob Mg or Tom Oberheim. So like this I was right don't buy
the andromeda, I would prefer to wait and buy an analog device from
Mario Maggi.  :D
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: bg on March 23, 2005, 02:36:49 pm
Max is correct, and to add to the list here are the Polyphonic Aftertouch MIDI controllers that I am aware of:

Prophet T-8
Elka MK 76, MK 88
General Music S2, S3
Kurzweil MIDIboard
Roland A50, A80
Ensoniq EPS, ASR, VFX, SD1, SD32, VFX, SQ80, TS-10

The CS-80V comes alive with a Poly AT controller.  Ensoniq EPS is probably the least expensive option.  Around $300 US.
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: bg on March 23, 2005, 05:11:46 pm
Take a look at the discussion found here:
http://tinylink.com/?kUfAdz8rUm

It appears that the Prophet T-8's polyphonic aftertouch affects only its internal voices and does not transmit Poly AT via MIDI OUT, though it does respond to incoming Poly AT.  Please correct me, if anyone knows otherwise.
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: poropat on March 24, 2005, 03:04:44 am
Quote from: "bg"
Take a look at the discussion found here:
http://tinylink.com/?kUfAdz8rUm

It appears that the Prophet T-8's polyphonic aftertouch affects only its internal voices and does not transmit Poly AT via MIDI OUT, though it does respond to incoming Poly AT.  Please correct me, if anyone knows otherwise.


Hi,
thanks for this precious information, like this I think Sequential made
a mistake when they designed the T8, because it means if we
play a T8 from another T8 via midi, we can't use poly aftertouch. :?
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: kchaos on July 29, 2005, 05:29:49 pm
Just to say that Howard Scarr has a very nice CS80V bank and it has some Vangelis touch on some patches!
Check it out!  :)
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: kchaos on July 29, 2005, 05:31:57 pm
For polyphonic Aftertouch Keyboard you may find a very cheap Ensoniq SQ80 these days! I have one and work fine with CS80V.
Title: Weird
Post by: arm89645 on November 21, 2005, 03:27:15 am
I keep having these strange thoughts any one know why? xx(xx(
Title: Re: Weird
Post by: omissis on November 21, 2005, 08:35:55 am
Quote from: "arm89645"
I keep having these strange thoughts any one know why? xx(xx(


Don't hear Mom!!!!!! :shock:  :shock:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: Boulotaur2024 on March 13, 2006, 08:58:29 pm
Ok i read all the thread including the one linked by bg on newsgoups, I don't know any of these keyboards for but I will definitely investigate on them.

Someone mentionned about the ensoniq EPS or SQ80, it's ok I'm glad they have Poly AT and I'll search Ebay for them, but I know they're not necessariyl going to be cheap and I have limited means (I'm a french student), and above all what I'd like to be sure about is do these have *enough* slider/controllers to fully exploit the power of cs-80V ?

Quote from: "omissis"
not counting you can always add polyaftertouch messages from your DAW....at zero costs :wink:

Mm sounds really interesting, would you mind explaining that further ?

edit : so far I found nothing about Ensoniq SQ80 or General Music S2/S3 on Ebay : (

I was thinking to myself, it may sound silly but might be viable somehow : shouldn't Arturia sell dedicated Poly AT keyboards (in option) with their cs-80V package ?
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on March 14, 2006, 12:17:03 pm
Unfortunately, to build dedicated poly aftertouch controller has terrific costs: for example if Fatar has to make a bunch of poly at keyboards, a stock of just wired sensors on a socket would cost around 500000 euros...I wish a brave heart would start building such keyboards the artesan way, since the poly at keyboards have no more market ( people don't know how to play them, what a shame ) and, as above, the manifacturers won't risk high production costs in front of poor sales - :cry:  :cry:
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: Boulotaur2024 on March 14, 2006, 07:07:39 pm
You don't answer my question but thanx for the info :D

btw Omissis, don't you have a website or a webspace of any kind where we could listen to your work, ideas, that would be great, you're really knowledgeable.

I managed to get a quite convincing Vangelis string pad (like the one he could get from vp-330 -especially distinctible on Antarctica album).

edit : now that I'm listening to it again, it sounds more like strings you can find on Mask, or Soil Festivities, don't know whether they were made with vp-300 though. Mine is yet to sawtooth-esque, and not "silky" enough, compared to BladeRunner ones I guess.
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on March 14, 2006, 07:17:02 pm
Er...since I make music mostly for fun and for myself and since I'm so poooooorly skilled :cry:  :cry:  , I use the old way mostly : get the output into a tape recorder...anyway , as I said somewhere else( :wink: ) actually I have my instruments placed elsewhere :oops:  :oops:  :oops: ...about your question ,  many hosts have a MIDI event editor avaliable, it depends on what you have got or use mostly but, generally, as you can filter an excess of aftertouch events ( this happens frequently if you use the poly aftertouch ) you can , as well, address a poly at even on a single note or on more than one note...as I said each sequencer does this its own way :wink:
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: Boulotaur2024 on March 14, 2006, 08:28:02 pm
Ok, here is a (very) short excerpt of the sound I'm working on :

http://s146380088.onlinehome.fr/Muzik/SynthStrings.mp3 (224 Kbps mp3 - 19 sec. - 522 Ko)

Please bear in mind that I have *no* controller yet to play my VST, so this is played with a ... PC Keyboard, in Chainer. (Yea I badly need to get a MIDI controller !!!)

Of course there's obviously no velocity, 3 notes max at the same time, and I don't even have a piano layout so I don't know which notes I'm playing :D

I *know* the performance is rather unexpressive and flat, but hope this demonstrates the kind of sound I'm looking for.

Omissis, mate, come on you need to build your website, you could even get a weblog, such as Wordpress which installs in no time and is ready to be used, the world needs to know you : )

(pm me if you need advice).
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on March 14, 2006, 10:29:42 pm
Yeah, the excerpt sounds very similar to the strings I can pull off the JX10, nice one Bouloutaur!! By the way , have you experienced some new sounds on the CS80V out of the usual Vangelis patches? :wink:
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: Boulotaur2024 on April 04, 2006, 09:08:58 pm
Err... What is Cs-80v again  :D ?

I'm currently working on those incredible Eminent 310 Solina Strings : D

Nah seriously, it's a shame this forum is so dead, I'd love to be able to share presets with users but there doesn't seem to be any activity here, and also few people share presets in Cs-80v newsgroup :/
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on April 05, 2006, 07:03:16 pm
Unfortunately the forum can't allow the file sharing because , altough there could be the ability, this forum can't allow the update of personal files!
By the way, it could be interesting if you share some of your files on the newsgroup, I have to remove mine because there was too short space for other files: we're into the update time and the collaboration , especially of the original CS80 owners is essential, so any tech new is welcome there too!
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Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: Boulotaur2024 on August 17, 2006, 09:27:34 pm
Quote from: "omissis"
I watched a video where Vangelis plays live the track "The Dragon" from China and he plays the Yamaha synth!

Yep, you can find it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0D3x4WkxuM).
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: omissis on August 18, 2006, 11:38:57 pm
Heheh, thx Bouloutaur, I've found it again on an old cdr of mine that I kept among dust...
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: Boulotaur2024 on January 04, 2007, 05:38:33 am
Oh and btw, here is a longer version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpAX-wVnUmQ) (better quality too).

Also a pretty rare video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2cj3HzJwhU) where he improvises on the Cs80 (ribbon and RM) in 81.
Title: Applying Effects within CS-80V
Post by: slammah2012 on February 18, 2007, 12:22:23 am
It is funny to see that Vang is using the meter bridge of the MCI desk as his upper tier stand, instead of the CS80 heat vents.....a spot reserved for his ashtray ......lol