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punkdSICO

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Analog Instrument Sound Engine - Any Info?
« on: July 24, 2012, 06:16:49 pm »
Hi all

So, I have spent quite a few hours playing with each of the Analog sound engines, trying to get familiar with what is possibly Sparks biggest strength over the competition (sound synthesis).  Initially, I loved Spark’s “dumb down” approach to the analog/modelled sounds – all my favourite synths have very simple interfaces.  However, I now wonder:

Question: How many different sound engines are behind the scenes of each of non-samples instruments?

If there are only, say, one engine for the analog sounds and, one engine for the modelled sounds, I think the implemented “simplified” interface has resulting in a much more complicated user experience.  Rather than having one sound engine to learn, with 20 or so parameters, we now have 30 engines to learn, each with 6 parameters (as shown below).

What do others think?  Would it have been simpler to have one bigger sound engine, maybe with presets for the current 30 analog/modelled instruments??

I don’t expect this can be changed as it would clearly brake the whole Spark model – Im just curious..

Here are the 30 current models, including their parameters, notes I use for trying to find an engine to use, plus my personal 1-3 rating:

Rating   : 1 = Very Good, 2 = Good, 3 = Not great

Name   : Alien Circuit
Rating   :
Params   : Pitch, Zap Rate, Release, Attack Sweep, Attack, Transform
Notes   : Whistle sound that cant get rid of but, can get good rhythmic sounds with the Zap part

Name   : VintageBox
Rating   :
Params   : OscPitch, Decay, ClickDecay, K Damp, K Freq, K Noise
Notes   : Very analogue/quirky. K Freq turned to min gives nice clicking affect.

Name   : Acid BD
Rating   :
Params   : Tune, Decay, Pitch Eq, Bend, K Damp, K Freq
Notes   : Very usable/standard kick. Nice click

Name   : DR-909 DB1
Rating   :
Params   : Tune, Decay, Click, Bend, Bend Rate, Tone
Notes   : Standard deep kick

Name   : DR-909 DB2
Rating   :
Params   : Tune, Decay, Bend, Bend Decay, Click, Brightness
Notes   : Standard deep kick

Name   : Dub Trip
Rating   :
Params   : Tune, Decay, Pitch EQ, Pitch Decay, Ring Depth, Ring Freq
Notes   : Standard deep kick but with ring modulation

Name   : Sci-mons BD.
Rating   : 2
Params   : Pitch, Decay, Pitch Bend, Click Level, Click, Noise Cutoff
Notes   : Deep with noise. Dynamic.

Name   : DR-606 BD1
Rating   :
Params   : Pitch, Attack, Decay, Pitch Attack, Punch, Noise
Notes   : Nice 606.  No surprises.

Name   : DR-606 BD2
Rating   :
Params   : Pitch, Attack, Decay, Pitch Attack, Click, Noise
Notes   : Nice 606 but with a "wow" sounding element

Name   : KPR++ BD1
Rating   :
Params   : Tune, Knock, Decay, Click, Click Cutoff, Click Reso
Notes   : Standard KPR but with a nice click/knock element

Name   : KPR++ BD2
Rating   :
Params   : Tune, Body Decay, Noise Decay, Noise Level, Noise Cutoff, Noise Scoop
Notes   : Standard KPR but with a nice Noise element

Name   : Dirty 909 BD1
Rating   :
Params   : Tune, Decay, Bend, Bend Decay, Saturation, Brightness
Notes   : Very nice kick with lots of pitched elements. Quirky

Name   : Dirty 909 BD2
Rating   :
Params   : Tune, Decay, Click, Bend, Bend Rate, Tone
Notes   : 909 with dynamic click element

Name   : PhatWerk BD1
Rating   : 1
Params   : Pitch, Wave Mixer, Decay , Filter, Bend, Noise
Notes   : VERY dynamic and fun. Try 0/100/100/100/0/0

Name   : PhatWerk BD2
Rating   :
Params   : Pitch, Click Tone, Decay , LPF Cutoff, Bend, Noise
Notes   : As per BD1 but with Noise rather than tone.

Name   : MicroMatix
Rating   :
Params   : Pitch, Ring Mod, Decay, Body Tone, Beater Tone, LPF Reso
Notes   : Dynamic kick with tone element

Name   : SynDrummer
Rating   : 2
Params   : Pitch, Decay, Wave Mix, LPF Cutoff, Click, Detune
Notes   : Dynamic with synth sound. LPF Cutoff to zero.

Name   : Ace Clone FR-2L
Rating   : 3
Params   : Pitch, Decay, Noise Mix, Noise Color, Click Mix, Attack
Notes   : Standard with noise.

Name   : DRM-55
Rating   : 3
Params   : Pitch, Click, Decay, Noise, Noise Color, Noise Res
Notes   : Standard with noise.

Name   : Kaziotone SK1 BD
Rating   : 2
Params   : Pitch , Shift, Decay, Lo Cutoff, LPF Reso, LPF Env
Notes   : Casio kick with extra tone that could be used to good effect

Name   : Kaziotone SK1 BD2
Rating   : 3
Params   : Pitch , Attack, Decay, Noise, LPF Cutoff, LPF Env
Notes   : Casio kick. As BD but with noise

Name   : Maestro King BD
Rating   : 1
Params   : Pitch , Attack, Decay, Noise Attack, Click Decay, Click Bright
Notes   : Standard but nice, with noise.

Name   : DR-808 BD
Rating   : 1
Params   : Tone, Decay, Zap, Pitch Decay, Pitch Bend, Zap Rate
Notes   : 808 with Zap which makes it much more useful.

Name   : CL 78 BD1
Rating   : 2
Params   : Tone , Decay, Click Cutoff, Click Reso, Click Level, Attack Time
Notes   : All sub kick. Limited but if you need sub!

Name   : CL 78 BD2
Rating   : 3
Params   : Tone , Decay, Noise, Hiss Level, Click , Attack
Notes   : As BS1 but less sub plus hiss/noise.  More limited.

Name   : Micro Pops
Rating   : 3
Params   : Pitch, Click, Decay , Noise , Brightness, Distortion
Notes   : Limited with Distortion

Name   : YMR-10
Rating   : 3
Params   : Pitch, Decay, Click, Attack, Color, BPF Reso
Notes   : Pretty standard with resonating BPF.

Name   : Electricity
Rating   : 3
Params   : Tune, Timbre 1, Timbre 2, Attack, Decay, Attack Delay
Notes   : Not great.

Name   : Mad Scientist
Rating   : 1
Params   : Pitch, Timbre 1, Timbre 2, Metalize, Scratch, Decay
Notes   : Super quirky.

Name   : Mad Scientist
Rating   : 3
Params   : Pitch, Timbre 1, Timbre 2, Attack, Decay, Freq Shift
Notes   : Not so great.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 09:37:07 am by punkdSICO »
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Re: Analog Instrument Sound Engine - Any Info?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 09:18:50 am »
Hi Paul,
great job :).
To answer to your question almost each instrument is a unique modular analog engine.
For the upcoming 1.5 version we will try to add some more analog instruments.
Kevin
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Re: Analog Instrument Sound Engine - Any Info?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 09:43:02 am »
Hi Kevin

Understood..  With a separate modular setup for each instrument, I can see why it was not possible to give a single (but more complicated) instrument with just 30 presets.

Looking forward to the possibility of more presets..

Thanks,

Paul
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